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Today’s guest is the creator of the popular Phase 10 card game also available in app form. You will discover how he comes up with game ideas, how his new mobile platform allows you to get more referrals for your app and what’s the best way to ask users to refer their friends.

Ken Johnson is the Founder and CEO at WildFire.


03:16 – Ken’s process in coming up with a game.
08:10 – How to commercialize a game.
10:12 – Transitioning from real-world toys to the app space.
14:28 – The right time to start a new business.
16:09 – Referrals and the best way to do it.

Steve Young

Founder at AppMasters
I started building apps in 2011 and my first app hit #8 under educational games. I started making a few hundred dollars a month, but had no idea what I was doing. Then in 2013 I decided to start a podcast so I could pick the brains of app creators that I admired including the co-founder of Shazam, Tapbots, Crossy Road, etc and that changed everything.

Now I run an app marketing agency where we’ve helped 28 clients get featured by Apple, 5X downloads with ASO, and get coverage on Techcrunch, Mashable, Venture Beat and other major publications. I also write about apps on The Next Web, Entrepreneur.com, and on my blog AppMasters.co.